Love them or loathe them the Centurions have arrived and Tale of Painters are pleased to share with you an unboxing of this controversial new box set. Read on to find out more.
The box is slightly deeper then your average troop size box (225mm wide by 150mm high and 45mm deep). Stripping the shrink wrap away and opening the box you’re confronted with three sprues, a bag of bases (50mm, that’s 10mm bigger than terminators), a transfer (decals) sheet and an instruction sheet. At first I thought the sprues were all the same, but actually you get three unique sprues here! That’s kinda cool, but does start to explain the expense of the box set. It’s a lot more tooling to do then if they were to have just a single sprue. It is nice to have three models with different details sculpted on or three different bare heads or even different poses.
In the box you get the following weapons. 3x twin linked Lascannons, 3x twin linked heavy bolters, 3x Grav-cannons and grav amps, 3x Ironclad assault launchers, 3x hurricane bolters, 3x missile launchers (frag and krak, no option for flak in the codex), 6x melta guns, 6x flamers, 3x pairs of siege drills and an omniscope.
These guys are walking armouries. It’s impressive that you now get every weapon option from the codex on the sprues. I remember back on the day having to scrabble around swapping and begging for special weapons for my tactical squads.
This I thought was really cool. When assembling the model you actually glue the armour to an actual pair of legs. With a bit of hacksawing I think you’ll be able to get some better walking poses. In the picture above you can see the floating knee. I lot of people online have been complaining there is no knee, but actually there is and it’s behind the armour. This is the same as MK6 corvus armour in my opinion.
Here you can see the reverse of the leg armour. Quite easy to cut and reposition in a walking pose if you ask me.
Now this for me is a huge plus. In the above picture you can see two flamers and two meltaguns. These weapons are mounted on the side of the siege drills. So if you don’t use the siege drills your bitz box immediately benefits from a total of 6 meltaguns and 6 flamers!
I thought I’d share this picture from the instructions. The thigh and crotch armour pieces are separate so you can leave off if you prefer. The torsos are on a ball joint. This gives us some articulation for poses. The head is also on a standard marine head ball joint so you can switch the heads out and replace if you want. The kit comes with three identical marine helmets and sergeant helmet with bionic eye which are described as a mix of terminator/standard marine helmets by the designer in White Dwarf this month. The sergeant’s helmet also has an option to glue on a plume. You also get three unique bare heads. Each one different. These bare heads are beautiful sculpts. I’m thinking of saving them for special character conversions.
Verdict:
This box set features a whopping 175 pieces to make 3 unique models. The incredible amount of weapon options will leave you kitting out your other models with the spares (I’m thinking of adding spare siege drills to terminator models to represent chainfists). I really like the design of these. The idea of a devastator marine stepping into a war suit and it clamping down all around him as he picks up two heavy weapons is very exciting. It evokes imagery of Ripley in her power loader, the APUs from the matrix and hulkbuster ironman suit.
The downsides are the design and the price. The design is typical of Warhammer 40,000. It doesn’t work. This is right up there with a rhino not being able to fit 10 marines inside. There are no where for the pilot’s arms to go. The designer explained this in the White dwarf article saying “the arms are folded in front of the marine’s chest”. I don’t buy that, firstly, if that is the case how’s he controlling the suit? Secondly I don’t think a marine with shoulder pads would be able to fold his arms across his chest. If the chest weapons were mounted above the head like a cyclone missile launcher then the chest area would look like it could house the arms and controls easily.
Now onto the price. These are a premium price at £47.50. This works out to roughly to 27p per piece and £15.83 per model. That is expensive in comparison to a lot of models. But if you compare to say the trolls from the Hobbit, then these work out slightly cheaper per figure and a lot cheaper per part. But if you compare to the river trolls for Orcs and Goblins then these Centurions are very expensive. The ultimate comparison though is with Obliterators. It’s the chaos equivalent unit. You can get the finecast box of Obliterators for £31.50. £16 cheaper! Games Workshop has got the pricing so wrong on this box set which is a real shame, because I would like another three of these but I just won’t buy them. One box is enough.
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Well they are not that easy to pose.
The centurions control the suit neurologically(connected from their power armour to the suit) which Is why they must first be proficient in flyers and tanks before being allowed in a suit …
I wouldn’t compare old,d miniatures with brand new ones in terms of cost and design ….they were made and developed years from each other.
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everything new and games workshop is going to be terribly expensive..I even fear for fantasy since boxes are as much as they were if not more from a few years ago AND have less models…
I just finished building these guys and will use them tonight in my first game. They are difficult to built, especially the weapons, and it took me quite a lot to figure out how to build the grav-cannons as they have different arms (one is the cannon and the other one the amplifier). Also, they are so expensive that I am planning to magnetize them so I can use them both as devastators or assault, the assault ones may be interesting options on drop pods.
It took me three nights to build these. Lots of tiny fiddly components that needed moldlines removing. I really like the look of the cables at the back they have a great movement to their look but damn were they fiddly to work out which goes with which. The instructions were quite badly put together. Rather then number each part uniquely they should have numbered groups. So all the first left arm pieces are 1L and then subcategories per part. So you end up with 1LA, 1LB, 1LC, then the right arms would be 1RA, 1RB etc. Next set of arms would be 2LA, 2LB, 2RA, etc. Would have made life so much easier!
I'm looking forward to sharing my Centurions on Tale of Painters because I chopped the legs up and respaced the waists for some much better poses.
You do get a lot of extra weapons and bits and pieces that could easily be used on other models though. Which I think is a decent plus.
Cool review :)I also picked up a couple of boxes of these guys and have just finished putting them together.I dont know if its just me but I found them really fiddly and time consuming to fit together. Especially the gun piping. Which took me forever to figure out.I like the models though, but the pricing is a little harsh on the wallet.
Unboxing very interesting. As you say there are lots of options weapons so many bits, it can be interesting. Now I am waiting to have them in my hands, but for now I waiting my order.
Good continuation
I like the models, Im ok with them not being realistic, hey it is 40k after all! The price is why I wont be buying these sadly.
Thanks for the unboxing pics…not sold on these as yet, waiting till I've had a proper read through the codex. They certainly seem to work better as the Heavy Weapons versions where the more static poses are less of a problem. I do feel as if they have gone too static – the fluff pics show they much more mobile. They contrast with the Forge World Contemptor I've just assembled…obviously not marketed at the more experienced modeller! Sure you're usual paint job will help lift them – the studio paint jobs don't help either in my opinion.
Looking at the codex fluff description, these still make no sense. If a dreadnought won't fit somewhere, why would these things??
Its good to see some better shots of the sprue though – any chance of a shot of the heads – the GW pic only shows the back of them.
Also, without the groin plates, how bare do the legs look? Would you need to fill in attachment points for the groin plates or are they flat-flat connection points rather than a-b mated points?
So I am glad they include transfers I guess…
I think the assault variant looks even less real-world possible. It has elements of realism but I could never take them they look too silly.
Though overall I think they look much much better than the preview pics indicated (never trust a dodgy scan people)I struggle to see the actual distinct use for them. How are they not redundant with all the choices and heavy support choices already afforded to marine players. Or have they been made deliberately OP to make them a viable 'choice'?
Additionally I think a comparison with Hobbit kits is never going to be fair the price point for the Hobbit is a good 10-20% higher than equivalent kits anyway.
Hi Garfy,
I purchased this kit today and, having assembled one of the models, I am not sure that I would agree with you on how easy it would be to repose the models. It might appear easy at first glance but the kit has a number of interlocking parts that would make it difficult to change the position of one component without converting the other parts to fit as well. The hydraulics would be the major problem here as they would need to be rebuilt in order to significantly alter the pose.
Also, although the hip joint is ball-and-socket, there is limited pose-ability due to other components getting in the way (hydraulics, armour plates). This is not to say that it is a bad kit, simply that the designers have chosen to sacrifice pose-ability for detail.
I'm sure that the kit could be re-posed but it would take someone with good experience of converting models.
You can read my own thoughts on the kit here if you are interested:
https://miniaturemiscellany.wordpress.com/2013/09/07/space-marine-centurion/
-Andy.
Hmmmm that more or less echoed my concern looking at the sprue a lot of cutting and careful filing required. You have the appearance of posability.