Hi all! Just thought I’ll talk a little bit about the paints that I use and what I found they work best for.
There are
different paints available on the market that you can use with your
brush and airbrush. All the brands have their advantages, some come in
interesting colours, some are more vibrant and some flow smoother
through the airbrush.
The first range
of paints I would like to talk about is GW Citadel. It is the most
well-known paint and comes in vast range of colours. It is great for
applying paint by brush, but it is not a perfect paint for an
airbrush. It can be diluted with distilled water, but many colours
tend to have an uneven flow and even clog the airbrush. I have a wide
range of citadel, which I used to dilute, but nowadays
I use it mainly for painting by brush: doing a more detailed painting
or dry brushing.
The next paint on
my list is Vallejo. There are two types that I use Vallejo Model
Air/game air, Vallejo Game colour and Panzer Aces. All the paints
come in a 17 ml bottles with a nozzle, which makes it easier to pour,
but tends to be wasteful towards the end of pot life, especially for
the thicker paints. The first is a range specifically designed for
airbrushing and it does perform well. It has a good colour range and
when applied gives a good coverage, so I use it a lot for base
coating. I would say that it is perfect for everyday airbrushing. Although some colours are problematic, such as black and white, they
tend to clog a bit.
Game colour is a thicker paint and is required diluting with distilled
water to use in an airbrush. I mainly use it for airbrushing for
certain colours that don’t come in Vallejo Model Air range and also
I use it for application by brush for details an dry brushing. Panzer Aces are the range where
all the colours are matched to official military colours. I don’t
have many of those, only a few very good colours, which I tend to use
quite a bit.
Other paints
Vallejo range that I use is Liquid metallic colours. This paint is
not good for airbrush, most metallic are not due to clogging. They effect is really
vivid and shiny; it is great to use with brush to pick out metallic
part of a model. Although you can’t use the paint directly from the
pot, first it needs to be diluted with mineral spirits to get it to a
thinner consistency.
Another paint
that I use is P3. It is a thick paint, but it sprays through airbush
even without dihluting. It also does have some nice shades that are
missing from the Vallejo range. In terms of flow and quality, I think
it’s quite similar to Vallejo. So I just have a few of their
colours in my collection.
A new addition to
my range is Com Art. They are the priciest ones from the list, £3.50
compared to £2 for Vallejo. They come in a bigger bottle, but don’t
be misled, they are thinner, so I think you probably get similar
amount of paint as you would in Vallejo. So are they worth the price
tag? I would say yes. In my view they are the best paints for the
airbrush in terms of flow. They are smooth and easy to apply, but
tend to be a bit opaque, which makes them perfect for a tinting, mist
application and detail. Their white and black flows perfect. The
colours are incredibly vivid and stay so after the paint dries. I use
this paint in small amounts to enhance and brighten up colours. The
last point to mention is the bottle. It is very solid and well made,
with a nozzle that twists to block the flow. The bottle also features
a ball inside, which helps to shake the paint well, as well as
prevents the paint from drying inside on the walls of the bottle,
making it less wasteful.
I also use some Tamia paints. They are not water based, so are quite
toxic, which makes them a challenge to spray in doors. But they are
good in an airbrush, they go through it very smooth and even the
metallic go through the airbrush very well. It has a nice mat sheen
to it when it dries and the colour is vibrant. I tend to use it for metallic on larger models,
due to it smooth application.
Those are defintely not all the paints on the market, although some of the most well known. Once in a while I still discover new brands and try them out. What paints do you guys use?
I wanted to re-post with my real name.
In addition to your basic gaming and modeling paints. I use Auto Air and Wicked Color from createx. Both are Automotive grade paints. So they hold up really well to hard gaming. They are waterbased so they are no toxic. the only downside is their color are for automotive and illustration so you may need to mix to get the exact color you need.
Just having a look at the Createx paints. They have some really nice colours, especially for bright ones. Will need to give Wicked colour a look.
In addition to your basic gaming and modeling paints. I use Auto Air and Wicked Color from createx. Both are Automotive grade paints. So they hold up really well to hard gaming. They are waterbased so they are no toxic. the only downside is their color are for automotive and illustration so you may need to mix to get the exact color you need.
As an addendum to my earlier comment on GW Airbrush line being a good line: do. not. thin. them. It's the same as thinning one of their washes. Having said that though, I've now had a chance to use them on a few more models and they really do work well as long you don't mind the pipette method of getting them into the cup on your airbrush. Still think I'll stick mostly with Vallejo Air for the $ though.
I still don't see any reason to use them, they cost more and come a shitty pot that gets a shitty crusty ass and you cant count paint drops for mixing.
You cant even buy them from your local store so they are not even convenient to get… wait there is one reason, if you don't air brush and your a Gw fanboy that wants to go from pot to model with a decent paint consistency. Honestly though i only see people getting them because there's that one colour they love and now its got a good consistency to start with.
Some of the FW colours are pretty good, but not had a chance to buy them as yet. But yeah the pot thing is a nuisance. I'd rather it be a dropper.
Well yeah, so I just use the pipette/droppers that I was using when mixing them with thinner from the normal pots anyway. And I will admit to being a bit of a fanboy when it comes to painting schemes I have no familiarity with – Ultramarines in this case, I picked up the base and first highlight colors as recommended in White Dwarf. I like getting a result similar to the Company's images when trying something new.
What's the best source for Com-Art paints in the UK?
You can pick them up from Graphic Air http://www.graphicair.co.uk/categories/Airbrush-Paint/ComArt-Paints/Com-Art-Opaque-Colours/
The Bloodline paints look pretty cool as well http://www.graphicair.co.uk/categories/Airbrush-Paint/Createx-Bloodline-by-Tim-Gore/
Thanks!
What about Reaper? I keep reading good comments about them but I've not once seen them used in a tutorial. anywhere.
Not certain if you can get them in the UK. I think they are mainly available in the US.
http://miniature-heroes.co.uk/ for Reaper paints.
Conveniently I'm in the US, but I suppose that would explain why one of the tutorials (that mostly come out of Europe) use them.
I have been using Vallejo's new air brush metallics recently with little to no problems through the airbrush. No clogging of the nozzle.
P3 paints go great through the airbrush after thinning.
I always thin down my Vallejo Air paints. I have had mixed results when I don't.
I am also starting to move over to certain colours on the Tamiya paints. Especially the likes of the blacks.
I had no idea you could thin liquid metal with mineral spirits, that makes them easier to use than having to use IPA it evaporates way too fast. They might become much more useful to me then.
Yeah, use mineral spirits. It works really well.
Nice chat here! The last paint i've bought is the COM-ART white for airbrush use, after TEN suggestion 😉
Personally i'm using all the Vallejo colours range with satisfaction, i still have some old GW colours and some new one but i'm really unlucky with them…
In my opinion the Scale75 is another good brand. The metallics are really nice and i'm curious to try their Fantasy & Games new series. They goes well even with airbrush!
Tamiya's clear colors are spectacular, great for tinting canopies and clear red is also great for blood and gore. The citadel air colors are pretty good but the pot is a nightmare and the price is steep so I only use a color or two from that line.
I have recently acquired the entire range of warcolours paints and I love them so far. They are perfect for wet blending, loaded brush, and layering. I highly recommend trying them. I would not recommend basecoating with them.
I use Revell as base coats/undercoats – cheaper than GW. Thin very well for airbrush with Revell's own thinner. I thin GW paints for airbrush with Tamiya's thinner. Works really well. Also never had luck thinning for airbrush with water. Clumped really badly.
Y'all might wince. I use Testor's enamels.
Is that like Humbrol enamel?
Testor's is very similar to Humbrol, you can't get Humbrol in the States and you can't get Testor's in the UK. They basically fill the same niche.
Has anyone tried the GW airbrush ready paints yet ?
I've not. But wished they used dropper bottles. Plus they are very expensive.
I just picked up a couple pots for the smurfs in the Betrayal at Calth box. They're decent, flow well out of the pot. I just use a pipette (the cheap plastics ones we all used in gradeschool) for most paints since I mix them anyway, so I didn't find the pot-not-dropper to be a huge issue. Coverage was fine, flow was fine, but I think Vallejo Air is the superior product
Has anyone tried the FW paints? I was thinking of picking up the Night Lords blue but…that's a sight expensive when converted from GBP for me.
For airbrushing, I would add that:
GW paints can be used in an airbrush just fine, if they are diluted with water and aibrush thinner (50:50). once the post start to go old though, they're no good for an airbrush.
Vallejo Air: only add Vallejo's airbrush thinner to dilute these. Adding water will cause the paint to clump and precipitate. Also, despite being prepared specifically for airbrushing, IMO, they still need to be thinned.
Vallejo Model Color: great for airbrushing and only require water for thinning. Yay!
TEN, what is the oldest GW paint pot you still use? I have a pot of "Moody Blue" from the early nineties still in use!
Nice collector's item too that Moody Blue.
I'd say rotting flesh in the older pot plus a whole bunch of others. Kind of insane that they still work after almost +20 years. I dont think GW paints nowadays would last that long.
Still have a pot of spacewolf grey on the go, and about 15 or so unopened hex pots, so old the labels have fell off!
Almost certainly some of the colours are sealed mithril silver gobbo green, enchanted blue. Black ink, green ink, chestnut ink, skull white, crimson gore, dark angels green and blood angel red
Would add scale 75 to the list as well. Found with vallejo's model/game air clogging can be greatly reduced by using their airbrush flow improver in a 1:5 ratio i.e. 5 drops of colour to 1 flow improver
I always like these posts about colours!
IMHO the liquid metals are incredibly shiny but difficult to use (alchool, rust, big pigments)!
If you are interested in new brands, I can suggest the Maimeri Polycolor: for example, the black is super matt, dull and "desaturaded" (I cannot paint without it), but I don't know if you can easily find them in your Country.
I'll give Maimeri a look. Thanks.
Thanks for the tips although me being what i think a noob of a painter I'll stick with the Games workshop stuff for the most part but have been moving into the tamiya for technical type paints (clear paints and such)
GW paints are really good.
Great article
I shall certainly be looking to add some of the Com Art paints to my collection as I am just getting into airbrushing and I am finding flow and pressure to be an interesting challenge
They are really good. But I still rate Vallejo as better.