Hey there, for Saturday evening we’ve planned to have the best and most comprehensive review of the new Citadel paint range around the net. As you can see above, we’ve prepared numerous test models, and first thing I’m going to do on Saturday morning is to go out, get as many of the new paints as possible and get a crack at painting. We will test each of the seven new types of paint thoroughly, we are going to compare them to the old Citadel Colours, Foundation paints and Washes, but also to similar products of other manufacturers. We will also see how well the official paint compatibility chart works and if you need to stock up on your old favourite paints or if the new ones work well enough as replacements.
Apart from that, is there anything you’d like to see in our review? Do you’ve got any specific questions regarding the new paint range that we could answer? We want to provide you the best review possible, so give us some hints in the comments! Thanks!
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I'd like to see if smooth dry brush results can be achieved with the compound paints, or do they look as chalky as they did in the close up in white dwarf.
I also want to know how thick you have to slap on the texture paints. I suspect very thickly and I can't see the pot lasting too long thus making it more expensive then just gluing sand on and painting it and not a viable option for basing. I like the uneven nature of it though.
- Luis Nieves
1. Colour matches (you've already mentioned this)
2. Opacity control – I use water to increase opacity and blend layers of colours without needing to mix paints. How controllable is the new paint opacity and do they leave watermarks.
3. Sticking power – paint black around the rim of the base undercoated white… whats the state of it by the time you finish the model??
4. How effective can you mix the different "types" of paints.
I'll be back if I think of more…
- Statt Meevens
How closely can you match:
from the current range?
My only question is about Ice Blue and Space Wolves Grey equivalents:
I've just started an army of Space Wolves with the base colour of 50/50 mix of both colours mentioned above painted over white undercoat.
So my question about new paints – 50/50 mix of Lothern Blue and Fenrisian Grey is critically different to original mix or not?
how similar averland sunset is to iyanden dark sun.
how do you find the glazes? Are they worth it or just watered down washes?
And the most imporant question, how close a match is the new boltgun metal equivilent
can you do a test to see what the glazes look like overtop of a white primed model so we can see the effects?
Also curious about the use of the textured paint as a potential weathering tool.
Bleached bone is my top concern when we talk about how close the new ones will match.
Can you thin the shades or will they crumble and fail? The same goes for layers.
I would like to know about the pooling and splotchyness of the washes. I tried using asurmen blue on an arvus lighter which such horrid results I had to repaint it again. Conversely I had fantastic results on a space marine librarian.
Do the new washes become splotchy on large surfaces like the side of a leman russ or a valk?
How well does the new white and Averland sunset cover over a black undercoat?
how does blood red compare to the new equivalent (Evil Sunz Red) in terms of:
– colour closeness
Also, how does Gehenna Gold compare to Shining Gold and how well does it cover.
I would really love to know how matte the new paints are. Also, I'm working with Dark Angels Green at the moment, and I'd be mighty grateful (if you have a sample) if you could investigate the coverage of the greens, Caliban in particular.
Thanks for your questions guys, keep them coming! Unfortunately I can't get all of the new paints so I can't match every colour, but I'll try to compare as many as possible!
I'm just starting a project so I'm not concerned about matching, but I'm really interested in whether the range, or parts of it, are sufficiently attractive in comparison to Vallejo Game Colour to justify the extra cost. Initial impressions elsewhere suggest that it might be worth using Vallejo as my mainstay, but going in for the Citadel bases and shades. What are your thoughts on how the two ranges measure up?
Also, assuming you have them, how are the yellows? The old ones are so tricky to work with.
oh yeah, 1 more – could you try simulating some mud with the texture and dry paints? I have high hopes for that technique and think the paints might be well suited for that. Would like to see some results.
Maybe you guys could make a table of all new paints that have no (attempted) equivalent in the old range. Could be useful for everybody that wanted to extend their options.
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Looking forward to this one. I know I would like to see how similar Chaos black Paint and Abbadon Black are, especially Abbadon black over Chaos black spray.