Welcome back to the Warlord blog. I have made my second video! The first has reached nearly 1500 views so far, not too bad at all for my first one I think. So onto the second one…
Here I discuss the tools of the trade, the build of the legs and some of the torso as well as a quick look at the weapon assembly and head components. Enjoy! (Apologies for my cold, I do sniff a lot through this video)
Here are a few of stills from the assembly and clamping process as well.
You can see on the next shot how complicated the clamping was here, pulling parts in, down and together but a reversed clamp in the middle to stop the bigger clamps pulling the read door panel in too much! (So that was set to spread rather than pull)
I kind of new this model was coming for some time. It was hinted at at the Forgeworld Open day in 2014, and then the clues appeared online for a while, so I was "prepared" for an expensive project. Admittedly the final price was a little over what I was guesstimating it to be, but this has never been a cheap hobby. I am fortunate to be in a position where on occasion I can have a big splurge without too many ill effects!
All that money and you need to do that to assemble the kit ! I hate resin in all it's forms , don't think it's a suitable material for this sort of stuff . Still how long before we see these coming out 3D printed ? Can't be far now surely .
Id argue part of the fun is dealing with resin and all its issues, as for 3d printing, dont believe the hype, a sub 10k printer couldn't come close to the detail needed and for anything other than a limited prototype run you would cast any way as it would take hours to make a single leg, as opposed to the mins to cast a batch of legs in resin…
I am not sure what other material is suitable for this level of detail? I have seen some video of 3D printed larger models, and you can see the "print lines" and the detail is pretty low. Plus the work required to actually come up with a 3D design to program the printer is some skills I don't possess. However that said, I remember when laser printers first came out, so it does not take long for 3D to become affordable and the quality to rise over the next 5-10 years or so such that a home user could make use of them in this hobby. Part of the challenge of any modelling project is the enjoyment of the struggles and careful planning to make these things look good. Simply paying someone else to assemble and another to paint them loses 90% of the fascination of the project for me, so seeing so many commission painters makes me sad that there are those who miss out on a major part of the hobby by not doing it themselves. Each to their own though!
Got to say, from first hand experience that a lot of people who commission actually do not have the time and just want to play/tournament etc. A lot of them can paint very well. But I think its a lot to do with high income, family, work, kids and the hobby coming at the bottom of the chain. I think a lot of people who can afford to commission would rather spend free time with family/playing or work than painting models. I know this from clients emails I receive as a commission painter. As a commission painter I know I would rather spend time with family and my kids any time over my work. Good video and love the model.
But none the less a hobby is a hobby and everyone should have the time for what they love.
@ThirdEyeNuke – Horses for courses guess its comes down to the distinction between a painter/modeller that games and a gamer that paints and models ;). For me the time i claw back from family and work responsibilities is thoroughly enjoyed painting and modelling as its a great release/relaxer for me, so the thought of paying someone to take away the infrequent "me" time i get is anathema to me.
@Haywiregrenade – Whilst 3D printers have come on leaps and bounds i don't think you will ever get the precision or speed required from a home device to do anything meaningful. Thats based on the current expectation of a 3d printer being a plastic extruder, driven by toothed belts, too many variables for repeatable results, extruder head temeperature, backlash in the drive chain for the 3 axises, and the fact that most makerbot type systems have a tolerance of between +/- 0.5mm and +/-1.5mm depending on how well maintained and constructed the device is, in other words not up to the job other than maybe some chunky scenery. Another big issue is the speed the devices run at say you wanted to print a click together space marine from the 2nd edition box set, it would take at least one hour per marine if not 2 and that assumes each one prints perfectly, in my experience your looking at 1/5 prints being a misprint (once you have mad dozens of tweaks and practice runs), so for a min of 15 hours printing you would have 10 v rough looking marines.
Maybe when a laser sintering system is available to the home market then things would be different but i wouldn't hold your breath and CO2 lasers will never be consumer friendly…
Also forgot to say my wallet hates you now as i gotta go get me some of those good looking clamps from homebase 😉
- Phil Turner
I've got to get back to working in Northern Canada so I can get started on some more big projects!! (They basically throw money at you)
Very cool video I must say, love to hear all you planing for the various steps =)
I agree that the planing and struggles of various projects in this hobby is what makes it such a lovely activity =)
Although Thirdeyenuke also have a good point; I guess its time that comes out in the end as the big factor, and the price for spending time with what you want 😮
Will you use any magnets (rather large in that case I presume) or will everything be glued altogether once finally assembled?
Not sure if it was here on this page or on some other page/forum I read that there might perhaps come out another head for this beast and I also assume that in the future there perhaps will come out additional weapons as well for this model?
Great work thus far! 🙂
Third Eye's point is very valid and I can see why people pay to have things done. After all, right now I am paying a decorator to fit new skirting board and decorate our spare room right now because, although I could do it, I don't have the time to do it. However, i'd argue that works for your regular 2k army that you want to game with as soon as you can, not something that costs £1200 and may never even see gaming board action. I see it as like those who build matchstick boats. Its a labour of love and you can spend as little or as much time to finish it.
Anyway, nothing wrong with Commission work, I have done a little bit myself, and the income can be quite lucrative.
Back to the Warlord, yup I will be using some magnets in the project. The first 2 will hold the carapace weapons themselves. Although gravity will actually do this for me, i'll add in a couple of disc magnets to give them stability.
The second magnet will be in the torso join, again although the join itself is fine and gravity will do the work, a magnetic connection will aid stability
There will be magnets on the armour plating for the arm weapons to allow access to the pins to make them interchangeable.
Finally a couple of magnets in the head section to make that removable. I am to sure I'll buy an alternate head, but certainly for stripping down the model for transport, it will come in use to remove certain parts.
Not got much done on him this week – in fact nothing…I've got a Knight to finish for the campaign weekend in August at WHW, and not much time between now and then due to vacation and work trips galore. So focus is back on finishing him, while not being distracted by the fact my shiny new AdMech army arrived on Monday.
I find it hard to get free time to do the things I want. I have so many boxes of Necron models that I wish I could find the time to paint just to allow me to play a few games, that along with games like X-Wing that seem to sit gathering dust. I think the older you get the less time you have. I remember when I was in my twenties how much free time I had. Oh the days 🙂
Im sure its a lore of gaming, each decade you look back at the seemingly huge amounts of free time you had to hobby, is equally offset by the increase in available funds as time progresses. For me i guess the sweet spot of parity between time and funds was 25, now i have the funds just not as much time…
Alright, thanks for the information about the magnets Haywiregrenade 🙂
Can't wait till your next Warlord post 😀
So true guys! The curve against free time v funds is in inverse proportion to your age 🙂 I have more funds, less time, so buy more, and struggle to finish much of it. Then new shiny things come out, and now my hobby den looks like someone threw a GW store in there, followed by a hand grenade. And I don't have children yet…that will put a massive strain on the time I do have (in a good way I might add).
The next couple of weeks will see little progress unfortunately on the Warlord. I have to get this regular Knight done as a priority but too much travel with work coming up makes that difficult.
Haywiregrenade, would it be possible for you to make a scan or at least take a few pictures of the instruction booklet? I'm scratch-building an Emperor titan and I'd really like to make it visually consistent with the other titans. Forgeworld won't even let me buy one. -__-
- Drake Seta
That is a hell of a lot of vice and clamps! Wow. Great guide Haywiregrenade. Really enjoy reading / watching it.
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I'm so jealous you can save enough money for this titan without spending it on something smaller beforehand.